Tuesday, March 1, 2011

AP's hatchet job report: Tenn. bill would make following Shariah a felony ~ see subjugating dhimmi laws for non-Muslims, apostasy laws, Islamic punishments

Nevertheless, it represents the boldest legislative attempt yet to limit how Muslims worship.

Worship is a 'private' matter. There should be nothing in the state law to enforce worship, respect for or belief in Islam.

Shari'a is not a law of equality. Women are half a man and [the part they don't tell you] non-Muslims viewed as below, both Muslim men and women ~ such laws require they live under a dhimmi or second class status.

Many Muslims believe that God wants the world to be ordered in such a way ~ as is in virtually every Islamic country.

As CAIR's founder said, that the Koran should be the highest authority in the land and Islam is in the US to be equal to no other religion.


When all else fails ~ play victim:


Muslim groups fear the measure would outlaw central tenets of Islam, such as praying five times a day toward Mecca, abstaining from alcohol or fasting for Ramadan.

People have more intelligence than this.

In addition ~ strange they should bring up ~ fasting during Ramadan ~ because in the Muslim world ~ there is a penalty of 6 months in prison for 'eating' during Ramadan. In Morocco some are fighting for the 'right to eat' during the Ramadan fast. In Algeria a Christian couple were arrested for 'eating' during Ramadan 2010.

Praying toward Mecca ~ don't we have freedom of religion ~ an embarrassing defence. And a low blow!

Abstaining from alcohol !! Could this AP report get more laughable!!


It sounds as though Muslim are afraid the same things will be done to them ~ that are done to non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia and to varying degrees across the Islamic world.


It is the thought that they could be dhimmied too!!


In Egypt, a priest was arrested for holding an 'unauthorized' prayer vigil at the bedside of a stroke victim. In Algeria, a European priest was imprisoned for conducting an 'unauthorized' sermon in a private home.

No doubt, Muslims fear is that the same will be done unto them.



...said First Amendment Center scholar Charles Haynes, who called it a "really distorted understanding of Shariah law."

Except when you are a dhimmi living under Islamic rule ~ and there all of a sudden ~ are a host of restrictions placed on what you can or cannot do in relation to respect for Islamic rule.

Non-Muslims face restrictions on marriage, religion, in education, politics... These are Muhammad's instructions. Sura 9:29 instructs Muslims to subjugate the non-Muslim.

Open to interpretation...

Interpret ~ no rights!!

What distortion?

That under Shari'a ~ rights and freedoms are not upheld.


"The way that it's worded makes the assumption that any practice of Islam is a practice of terrorism," she said. "And that's a dangerous line to walk. It excludes the millions of Muslims that are practicing peaceably from the ability to do so."

The dhimmi apartheid laws ~ that keep non-Muslims subjugated ~ are not radical Islam ~ they are Islam. The apostasy laws ~ as a firm part of Islam. These are not enforced by the radical from the hills. Troubling is that millions of peaceful Muslim accept that non-Muslims should not enjoy equality ~ in accordance with their religious instructions. The people of Saudi Arabia support beheading and amputations in the name of keep up with Islam. In Iran they support stoning of women for adultery ~ if you met them you would probably find they are good people!!

We need a better reason than some Muslims are nice people!!

We did not like communism ~ where all Russians honestly 'bad' people ~ some likely met Russian who were quite nice ~ but we did not adopt communism.


Laws which mean we would have to convert to Islam to be equal [to a Muslim] ~ that is the reality of Shari'a.

Trouble with nice people ~ is that they can often be mistaken.



NASHVILLE, TENN. – Tennessee is considering making it a felony to follow some versions of the Islamic code known as Shariah, the most severe measure yet put forth by a national movement whose members believe extremist Muslims want Shariah to supersede the Constitution.

The bill — drawn up by conservatives with ties to opponents of a planned Islamic center two blocks from New York City's ground zero and efforts to expand a mosque 30 miles southeast of Nashville — would face steep constitutional hurdles if enacted.

Nevertheless, it represents the boldest legislative attempt yet to limit how Muslims worship.

Muslim groups fear the measure would outlaw central tenets of Islam, such as praying five times a day toward Mecca, abstaining from alcohol or fasting for Ramadan.

"This is an anti-Muslim bill that makes it illegal to be a Muslim in the state of Tennessee," said Remziya Suleyman, policy coordinator for the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition.

The bill's sponsor, Republican Sen. Bill Ketron of Murfreesboro, said the proposal exempts the peaceful practice of Islam but seeks to condemn those "who take Shariah law to the other extreme." He said it would give state and local law enforcement officials "a powerful counterterrorism tool."

Ketron, who has successfully pushed through bills tightening restrictions on illegal immigrants, said he expects the Shariah measure will become law.

For now, supporters of the measure are working to bolster it against any constitutional challenges, which may be an impossible task, said First Amendment Center scholar Charles Haynes, who called it a "really distorted understanding of Shariah law."

"It's unconstitutional to even suggest that such legislation should be passed," he said. "Trying to separate out different parts of Islamic law for condemnation is nonsensical. Shariah law, like all religious law, is interpreted in a great many different ways."

Shariah is a set of core principles that most Muslims recognize as well as a series of rulings from religious scholars. It covers many areas of life and different sects have different versions of the code they follow.

At least 13 states have bills pending that would bar judges from considering Shariah in legal decisions, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, but none of those proposals is as strict as what Tennessee is weighing.

Ketron said he and House Speaker Pro Tempore Judd Matheny, R-Tullahoma, were given the bill by the Tennessee Eagle Forum.

Eagle Forum state President Bobbie Patray said it was drafted by David Yerushalmi, an Arizona-based attorney who runs the Society of Americans for National Existence, a nonprofit that claims following Shariah is treasonous.

Yerushalmi has written for years in conservative media about what he calls the danger of Shariah and its central role in Islam. He has represented Pamela Geller, who leads the group Stop Islamization of America and is one of the most vocal critics of a planned Islamic center two blocks from New York City's ground zero.

Yerushalmi also represented Stop The Madrassa, a group that opposed a public school in Brooklyn established to teach Arabic language, culture and history. He is one of the contributors to the report "Shariah: The Threat To America" by the Center for Security Policy, a think tank led by Frank Gaffney, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration.

Last year Gaffney testified at a court hearing on the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro. The hearing was intended only to determine if local officials violated the state's open meetings law in approving the site plan, but the mosque's foes used the opportunity to argue it was part of a plot to expand Shariah law in the U.S.

Yerushalmi said the legislation in Tennessee is clear about who's being targeted.

"The legislation simply states that Shariah that follows the law of jihad, which calls for the violent overthrow of the Tennessee and U.S. government, is the Shariah that is at issue," he said.

Sarah Thompson, a spokeswoman for the Islamic Society of North America, disagreed.

"The way that it's worded makes the assumption that any practice of Islam is a practice of terrorism," she said. "And that's a dangerous line to walk. It excludes the millions of Muslims that are practicing peaceably from the ability to do so."
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Online:
Read SB1028/HB1353 at: http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/
Tennessee Eagle Forum: http://www.tneagleforum.org/
Society of Americans for National Existence: http://www.saneworks.us/indexnew.php
Center for Security Policy: http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.xml


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