Sunday, August 22, 2010

Protesters demonstrate for, against 'Ground Zero' mosque

If Muslims keep saying Islamophobia Islamophobia ~ maybe no one will notice there are no churches in Arabia ~ the very place they are likely to go to ~ to find funding for their mosques in the west.

The double standards ~ is a good indication they are playing us!!

NEW YORK (AFP)— Several hundred protesters staged rival demonstrations Sunday for and against plans to build a mosque near the site of the September 11, 2001 attacks, some brandishing signs against Islam and others denouncing religious bigotry.

Though small in scale, the street protests reflect an intensifying national debate that has exposed a raw nerve over US attitudes toward Islam nearly nine years after Al-Qaeda militants flew hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center, killing nearly 3,000 people.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg supports the mosque, the city council has approved the project for a community center, and President Barack Obama has invoked the constitution's guarantee of religious freedom.

Demonstrators arrive on motorcycles to attend a rally with the Coalition to Honor Ground Zero August 22, 2010 in New York

But 61 percent of Americans disapprove of it, and opposition to the mosque has been taken up with fervor by conservative politicians like former Republican lawmaker Newt Gingrich who likened it to building a Nazi site next to the Holocaust memorial.

Daisy Khan, the executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, which is behind the proposed Islamic community center and mosque, said Muslims are concerned about the tone of the debate.

"Because this is like a metastasized anti-Semitism. That's what we feel right now. It's not even Islamophobia, it's beyond Islamophobia. It's hate of Muslims. And we are deeply concerned," she said in an interview on ABC's "This Week" program.

People participate in a rally against a proposed mosque and community center near ground zero in New York, Sunday, Aug. 22, 2010

Opponents have pressed for the community center's organizers to move to another location further from 'Ground Zero' in deference to the charged public sentiment. New York Governor David Patterson has even offered state land for an alternate site.

Karen Hughes, a former White House communications director who had urged then-president George W. Bush to visit a mosque shortly after the 9/11 attacks to reassure Muslims, Sunday urged Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his congregation to choose another site.

Writing in the Washington Post, she said the debate was "less about our freedom of religion than about the common sense and uncommon courtesy sometimes required to come together as Americans."
Khan, who is married to the imam, said any decision to move from the privately owned site had to be carefully weighed.

"And we have to be cognizant that we also have a constitutional right. We have the Muslim community around the nation that we have to be concerned about, and we have to worry about the extremists as well, because they are seizing this moment," she said.

Meanwhile, protesters from one side and the other began gathering in lower Manhattan under a fine rain at 10:00 am (1400 GMT), taking up positions about 100 meters and two streets away from each other, but also worlds apart.

"Don't let Islam mark a victory with a Mosque," said a banner raised by protesters who gathered at the corner of the site of the proposed Islamic center, on a privately owned lot two blocks from "Ground Zero," the epicenter of the September 11 attacks.

"You can build a Mosque at Ground Zero when we can build a Synagogue in Mecca," said another placard.

Protesters with the NYC Coalition to Stop Islamophobia, rally near the proposed Islamic Center August 22, 2010 in New York. The rally was held to oppose the construction of an Islamic Center and mosque near Ground Zero.

The trouble with the pro-Islamic protesters is that even when Muslims start asking for the right to ignore the US Constitution and have some sort of Shari'a law recognized ~ they'd still vehemently call anyone who opposes these Muslim requests racist and Islamophobic.

It is worrying because these pro-Islamic supporters seemingly would go to any length to support Muslims ~ even if it means overturning freedoms.

This group is the

A group of about 50 bikers in leather jackets roared in bearing the emblem of the New York Fire Department, many of whose members were killed during a doomed attempt to rescue people trapped inside the burning towers.

Joe O'Shay, a lawyer who wore a T-shirt covered with slogans against the mosque, tearfully said he had turned out to protest because "I am a New Yorker and I lost a nephew here."

Protesters waved American flags as Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" blared from loudspeakers.

Organizers distributed signs with the inscription "Sharia" in bloodlike red letters.

Two streets away, a small crowd about the same size called for tolerance, their signs defending freedom of religion and pleading for acceptance of immigrants of all faiths.

Their signs said "Down with religious bigotry," "Bigotry is UnAmerican" and "Repudiate Islamophobia!"


trencherbone said...

The Victory Mosque affair has seriously damaged the image of The Religion of Peace™ in the eyes of ordinary Americans. We can consequently expect a lavish petrodollar-funded campaign of taqiyya (lying about Islam to the infidels) in the MSM, in an attempt to lull the public back to sleep.

So, as a high priority to immunize the American people against the coming onslaught of Islamic propaganda, could bloggers please familiarize their readership with the techniques of lying, deception, feigned moderation, guilt-inducement, diversionary tactics, twisted logic and half-truths embodied in the Islamic practice of taqiyya.

There's a description of the main features of taqiyya HERE ...

libhom said...

The mosque isn't going to be at Ground Zero. It's going to be a couple of blocks away in Tribeca, which is a big distance in Manhattan.

I wish these protesters from outside NYC would go home and stop making fools of themselves.

trencherbone said...

"Two streets away, a small crowd about the same size called for tolerance..."

The privileges of being classed as religion should be withdrawn from Islam.

If Hitler had claimed that 'Mein Kampf' was dictated by God, would we be forced to tolerate the Nazi Party as a religion? Islam is first and foremost a mind-destroying, totalitarian political ideology that spreads through the Body Politic like a virus.

Winston Churchill gave the correct diagnosis over a century ago, when he compared Islam to a contagious virus or meme - 'as dangerous in a man as rabies in a dog'

Consequently, Islam should be reclassified from 'RELIGION' to 'PUBLIC MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM' - a fatal contagious mental illness. It could then be contained by the methods used to prevent the spread of typhoid and other lethal epidemics: enforced exclusion and quarantime of carriers, eradication of foci of infection, immunization of the susceptible population etc.

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Armed With Knowledge said...

It's amazing how, in the midst of failed ideology (that is the failed ideology of tolerant, arms-opened-and-eyes-closed multiculturalism in the midst of radical Islam), the proponents of the prevailing multicultural spirit are not only able to sidestep the accusations of being "intolerant, Nazi-like" xenophobes, but make those in favor of tolerating the mosque look like exactly that.

-the obligatory comparison to Auschwitz

-the comparison to building a synogogue in Mecca.

I mean, why did it have to be "synogogue" - and if this is really about multiculturalism, shouldn't the creator of the sign have written "alternative place of worship?"? Or did I miss the announcement that Jewish culture is somehow the epitamy of what American culture is and its prevalence is what America's people should be concerned about?

The USA began as a predominantly white, heavily Christian-influenced nation, so one would think there would be plenty of people protesting in the name of Christianity. But there is no sign of such protest. Ironically, for the same reason that America is no longer either white or Christian in spirit, America is endangered by the threat of Islamification. It all goes back to anti-national "I want the world in my backyard" multiculturalism, the Jew-led liberal movement, the modern belief that anyone and anything can assimilate into a state, the belief that homogenuity in a state is somehow bad (unless of course that state is Israel).

Someone once wrote "live by the sword, die by the sword"...well, you can forget that: live by a flawed ideology, die by a flawed ideology. With each passing decade, the West has become increasingly less prepared to survive (due to its own degeneration, anti-national tendencies, declining birth rate, foreignization) than the decade proceeding, and the great liberal experiment which began with the Enlightenment has become increasingly more-liberal to the point where "truth" became the perceived truth of liberal democratic ideology.

And now it is to the point where the liberalism experiment has been pushed so far, it does not look like the West will survive...not only due to the rise of Islam as a political force, but due to the West's own self-destruction: the abundance of people who don't care (thank you, individualism, consumption culture)...and certainly could care less about their nation (thank you, anti-nationalist leftists/liberals).