Wednesday, April 7, 2010

PVV: Wilders gets figures: Immigration cost six billion euros

Talk of immigration cost in the Netherlands is a hot button issue. Here is what happened when a Dutch scientist published the results of his research into the costs of the immigrant from the mass immigration policy the Dutch [as well as many other EU countries] have had in place for years:

Dutch 'too PC' about cost of immigration: Dutch scientists turn a blind eye to the costs of immigration. That is the conclusion reached by Dutch researcher Jan van de Beek in his Ph.D thesis. Not everyone is pleased with Jan's findings.

"Are you a right-wing extremist?" Jan van de Beek was asked after one of his presentations. His research, which was conducted at the University of Amsterdam, apparently touched a raw nerve. A number of times he even found people calling him a Nazi or a fascist.

He goes on to say:

However, I think there is a connection between the insistence on denying certain facts by the Dutch elites and the success of the Freedom Party today. Research into the economic effects of migration could serve to reduce political tension in the Netherlands."

Although these new figures are a result of independent research after Wilders' PVV party's request for the figures in the Dutch parliament had been denied. In fact the Dutch scientist who also published data - mentioned above ~ was struck but the absence of statistical data on the subject of immigrant costs. And one of his aims was to change this.

Wilder states:

"So many foreigners come in every year alone under the context of family reunification. The actual amount will be so much higher."

And here lies the problem. The Islamic way of life, as it is practised in the Muslim world is unsustainable here in Europe. One of the foremost aims of the Islamic family is to marry off the children. This usually involves a trip back to the old country, to an often underdeveloped village to select a spouse from within the extended family remaining there. This person then obtains papers to come to Europe. Often the new immigrant doesn't know the language, their level of education is elementary at best, if they are literate at all, and next they are going to go through a long period of culture shock. Because the streets that are paved with gold are actually free. There is no Islamic law.

There are two problems, firstly if a Dutch Muslim girl who has been educated in the Dutch system ~ is pegged off with an illiterate [low level of education] relative, then as a man under the Islamic custom he has to be in control of the household. This is working against the Dutch efforts ~ not only to integrate Muslims ~ but to make sure everyone sets off to start their lives with a basic Dutch education ~ a high school diploma. But more than not the new immigrant will have an education level more in line with that of Morocco. Where a lot of village schools don't have teachers. Ensuring that the head of a significant portion of immigrant households in Holland could very well be an illiterate or a person with an elementary education.

Then there is also the problem with the young Dutch Muslim males pegged with illiterate women ~ some 60% of Moroccan women are illiterate [as well as a significant number who originate from the Turkish countryside] and then they are brought in as mothers to children of an advanced Dutch society. These women don't understand a thing about modern society. They act to do as they are told. And this is not good enough for a free and advanced society.

The problem the Dutch and many other countries around Europe face is that Muslim wish to continue living as they did before they came to Europe. They want to be in Europe and Morocco too. Along with this subsidized life ~ what has woken many Europeans up ~ is the calls for Shari'a. Where not only can you bring your relatives from overseas generation after generations ~ via arranged marriages ~ Muslims now want Shari'a.

A clear statement that everyone in the entire country should live under Shari'a as they do ~ back in the old country. But sometimes not so ~ in Austria more than 50% of Turkish immigrants feel that Austria should be brought under Islamic law ~ when it is not allowed in Turkey.

The backlash that has resulted ~ says ~ what are we getting here and how much is the laxed immigration policies costing us? In Denmark they counted the cost of their immigration from the Muslim world and back in 2002 put a stop to this arranged marriages between that country and the Muslim immigrant home countries. The immigration through marriages was costing the Danish taxpayer 1.3 billion EUR per year back in the 1990's. They found that the Muslim population was increasing exponentially ~ and it was being done almost entirely through the fetching marriages.


IHT: 2003 On fetching marriages
...these young women, whom [Hege] Storhaug calls "living visas in a new form of human commerce."

Many European officials have long assumed that such problems would be gradually resolved through intermarriage, integration and the consequent fading away of Muslim ghettos. But intermarriage and integration are not happening as expected - and the consequences of this failure are grievous

...results of a study of immigrant-group marriage patterns in Norway that is probably the most comprehensive statistical analysis of its kind in Europe. The study shows that members of most of Norway's non-Western immigrant groups are, in overwhelming numbers, not just marrying within their own ethnic groups but are marrying spouses - often their own cousins - from their countries of origin.


Norway: Human Rights Service figures for henteekteskap or "fetching marriages" - in which one spouse is "fetched" from the other's ancestral country - are staggering. From 1996 to 2001, 82 percent of the men marrying the Norwegian granddaughters of Moroccan immigrants were themselves Moroccans; another 14 percent were of Moroccan origin [from Norway*]. For Norwegian granddaughters of Pakistani immigrants, the corresponding rates were 76 percent and 22 percent. In that five-year period, only three granddaughters of Moroccan immigrants married ethnic Norwegians; only one granddaughter of a Pakistani immigrant did so.

Here is what one Norwegian Somali immigrant say about members of the Somali community there:

  • Somalis don't want to integrate in fear of losing their religion and culture.
  • Somalis despise and fear Norwegians, who are seen as untrustworthy infidels and whores.
  • Violence is common everyday. The father hit the mother, and the mother hit the children.
  • Somalis "divorce" on paper only to gain public economical support for single mothers.
  • Somali organisations work against integration internally, but presents itself to work for integration externally.
  • Somalis aren't interested in their children, but give birth to many to gain the most possible social security payments.
  • Many support female genital cutting, even though they say otherwise externally.

Wilders and a growing number of people are asking what are we doing and how much is this costing us in terms of not only money but freedoms lost :: Calling people racist, fascist and whatnot is not going to hold back this tide for long. It could even be considered fascist to keep the same immigration policy going against the people's will.

The Left's argument is don't look at the numbers ~ these are people. But the numbers are real. The fact that the average Dutch citizen is productive ~ means that these immigrants want to migrate. How many of them are fighting to get into a poorer neighboring African / Middle Eastern country. And the reason their countries of origin are poor is because on average each citizen has a low productivity level. If this immigration and this reluctance to integrate continues ~ it will not be a matter of being racist or not racist ~ there simply won't be the money to support this outlandish immigration scheme. The Netherlands would be broke.



THE HAGUE - The influx of non-western immigrants annually cost society between six and ten billion ($8bn - $13.34bn). These migrants, on balance cost the taxpayer several thousand per person.

This follows from the preliminary results of a scientific research agency of NYFER commissioned by the PVV.

This is a conservative estimate based on 20,000 non-Western immigrants. "So many foreigners come in every year alone under the context of family reunification. The actual amount will be so much higher," said PVV leader Geert Wilders.

Stop Immigration

The party sees this as a confirmation of the desire of a stop immigration from non-western countries, especially now be cut.

"Scientific research shows that we could save billions if we stop or restrict immigration," said Wilders. He hired the renowned institute himself after the then Labour Minister Van der Laan (Integration) was reluctant to pass of immigration cost details.

Wilders: "This should top the political agenda. Instead of the government arresting people, they should stop the immigration. This does not hurt people, you don't need to send anyone away."

Non-western immigrants cost society more than the average Dutch citizen, because this group has more income support [welfare], above average, often relying on AWBZ [Exceptional Medical Expenses Act] and greater cost factor in crime and law enforcement.

Against the high cost is that non-westerner received less in student grants and make less use of state funded childcare.

Wilders had received much criticism when he announced the investigation. "Immigrants, Western and non-Western, are members of our society. Their presence can not be reduced to a simple addition and subtraction using indicators of the euro," said Minister Van der Laan.


An immigrant costs the taxpayers a few hundred thousand on balance, the party says. NYFER himself finds it annoying that the data have come out. The institute says are too busy with the investigation and believes that Wilders has made a rough estimate. Last year the government wanted PVV know what the costs and benefits of immigrants.

Then Minister Van der Laan said that he does not intend to separately calculate what constitutes an ethnic minority or cost.

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