In dealing with the Islamic ideology ~ there are some of the issues that we are going to have to face ~ there is the fact that from its inception Islam has been foisted on those who then became its followers, and from this ~ you can say permission has been granted or the idea is that a similar force or terror ~ should be used to bring people under the rule of Islam again.
There was an interesting conversation where a British India [non-Muslim] journalist, who was interviewing British [likely] Pakistani radial Islamist ~ and she asked him ~ when the Muslims sought to convert India ~ a lot of people died. And he answered ~ but when they took the sword out ~ we had Islam. A clear acknowledgement of the violence ~ needed or used to spread Islam. The idea being ~ that once the violence is over then they would appreciate these new Islamic controls.
The phrase those outside of Islam are 'ignorant'.
Conversely is also the understanding that if violence or terror is not used ~ then people will not follow it.
Its the belief is that any country or peoples would be grateful to have Islam ~ thereby justifying its enforcement ~ as a result there is likely no religion on earth ~ ever to have killed more in the name of religion ~ than Islam. And a lot of people who may not be willing to take part in the violence ~ are willing to get out of the way ~ and allow what happened to them ~ happen to another group of people. Blinded by Islam [Obviously some hope that people would come to submit to Islamic rule willingly.. and if they don't what is the belief?]
What is happening in the UK and likely across Europe with the radicalization ~ is first we have seen the control of women ~ a sudden shift from cultural or regional dress to a uniformity ~ in line with the Gulf Arab states.
It started with more headscarves ~ worn a specific way [outside of the traditional form] ~ then it moved to all black and then the burqa. So then we have to look to the men. First they control the women ~ then they look outside to control the area ~ to bring uniformity into the immediate area [which is where some areas are now] ~ logically next is wider society.
Some people think that they can negotiate with it ~ where sillily the determining factor is whether you are deemed to be 'racist' or not. But to do this you must both be holding the same set of cards.
Yes there are many shades ~ but the shade that really matters is Islam and its laws. And a society which wants to remain free ~ must understand its goals and its methods.
If anything at all it should not be funded by the public purse.
Money from the Government's £63m-a-year anti-radicalisation budget has been given to the very extremist organisations it should have been confronting.
The Prevent strategy was launched four years ago to counter home-grown terrorism, but the Government now admits it failed on many fronts.
Announcing sweeping changes to its tactics and remit, Home Secretary Theresa May said the programme had not lived up to expectations.
In a statement to the House of Commons, she said Prevent had "failed to tackle the extremist ideology that not only undermines the cohesion of our society, but also inspires would-be terrorists to seek to bring death and destruction to our towns and cities".
Wednesday, June 8, 2011
Eulogy: Bin Laden's No. 2: Muslims will destroy America
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| Ayman al-Zawahiri was Al-Qaeda's second in command before the death of its leader Osama bin Laden |
"We promise him obedience... in jihad for Allah and to set up sharia (Islamic) law," he added.
Perhaps we should check the other houses around the Pakistani military acedemy ~ might find the Al Qaeda No. 2!!
DUBAI (AFP/ AP)— Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al-Qaeda's long-time number two, has vowed in a video eulogy to Osama bin Laden that he will pursue his late leader's jihad against the West, SITE Intelligence Group reported on Wednesday.
"Today, praise God, America is not facing an individual, a group or a faction," he said, wearing a white robe and turban with an assault rifle leaned on a wall behind him. "It is facing a nation than is in revolt, having risen from its lethargy to a renaissance of jihad."
"He went to his God as a martyr, the man who terrified American while alive and terrifies it in death, so much so that they trembled at the idea of his having tomb" he said.
Al-Zawahri — who referenced the toppling of rulers in Tunisia and Egypt and continued uprisings in Libya, Yemen and Syria — tried to cast recent developments as in line with his group's longtime goal: to destroy America and its allies. He said America now faces the international Muslim community.
"Our brothers who are working in Islam in all places, I tell you that our hands are extended to you and our hearts are open to you, so that we can work together to make Allah's word the highest and to make Islamic law in Muslim lands the ruler, not the ruled," he said in a video released on militant websites.
"We will pursue the jihad until we expel the invaders from Muslim lands," he was quoted as saying in the eulogy to bin Laden who was killed in a US raid in Pakistan on May 2.
"The man who terrified America in his life will continue to terrify it after his death," he added in the video message titled "The Noble Knight Dismounted," which SITE said was posted on jihadist online forums on Wednesday.
"You will continue to be troubled by his famous vow: You shall not dream of security until we enjoy it and until you depart the Muslims' lands," added the Egyptian militant, who was in white garb and a turban with a machinegun behind him.
He vowed to make sacrifices needed to "deprive America of security."
Security officials say armed tribesmen control parts of Yemen’s second-largest city
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| Armed Yemeni tribesmen stand on the back of a vehicle in Taiz, Yemen, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 |
SANAA, YEMEN [AP]— Hundreds of armed tribespeople have taken control of part of Yemen’s second-largest city, Taiz, security officials said Wednesday.
The advance on Taiz showed the government’s already tenuous control over the country has slipped further since President Ali Abdullah Saleh was wounded in a rocket attack on his compound in the capital Sanaa on Friday and left for medical care in neighbouring Saudi Arabia. Saleh left as Yemen was edging closer to civil war.
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| A Yemeni boy looks inside a car which was burnt in recent clashes between security forces and tribesman, loyal to Sheik Sadeq al-Ahmar, the head of the powerful Hashid tribe, in Sanaa, Yemen, Wednesday, June 8, 2011. |
Security officials said Taiz, a city of about a million located 250 kilometres south of Sanaa, was quiet Wednesday after two days of fighting during which troops loyal to the regime fought rival tribesmen trying to storm the presidential palace there. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.
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| Members of the Yemeni security forces take up positions inside the Ministry of Industry and Trade, during clashes with tribesmen, loyal to Sheik Sadeq al-Ahmar, the head of the powerful Hashid tribe, in Sanaa, Yemen, Wednesday, June 8, 2011. |
The Interior Ministry has denied that armed men are controlling Taiz, according to Yemen state TV.
Tuesday, June 7, 2011
Spanish journalist threaten by members of the band called 'Islam' ~ Its the same old song!!
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| Pilar Rahola The song's chorus "I'll kill Pilar Rahola" |
Journalist and author Pilar Rahola is under police protection after a death-threat clip recorded by a band named "Islam" was posted to YouTube. The song repeats "I'll kill Pilar Rahola", and the clip is accompanied by a woman wearing a burka. Rahola lodged a complaint about the clip, and the Spanish authorities had turned to the US Authorities to remove the video in question. [ed: the video was already removed]
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| Islam - the Band |
Pilar Rahola is known for her denunciations of Islamic and Arab dictatorships, as well as for defending the rights of women in Islamic societies. She recently published a book titled "The Islamic republic of Spain". IN the past she got death threats and was designated an 'enemy of Islam' by Spanish Muslim organizations for her positions favoring Israel and opposing Palestinian terrorist organizations.
Islam in Europe, Periodista Digital
Hijab Ban Dashes Iran Women's Olympics Dreams - 'Headscarf is an obligatory code of dress in Islam'
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| Eskimos dress modestly ~ why don't we see more Eskimo dress on Muslim women?? They are controlled to the hilt! |
Iranian officials said that the FIFA ruling has thrown a killer stone for women sports in the Islamic Republic. "Headscarves are simply what we wear in Iran,” said Mozafar.
The killer stone?? Who's talking about stoning women!!
To go without a headscarf in Iran is a crime. It is not 'simply what they wear' it is simply what they are forced to wear.
But the rules for the Olympics are that no religious or political items can be displayed.
Possibly they seek to come to the games as being above human!! Look at our supreme Muslim women. All very Hitleresque!!
Most of the women from the Islamic world are forbidden to take part in the games anyway!
In Iran woman are not allowed to attend men's football games ~ to look at men playing ball is forbidden.
CAIRO – Dashing Iran's hopes of playing in the 2012 London Olympics, football's governing body has ruled that the footballers' Islamic dress code broke FIFA rules, The Washington Post reported Tuesday, June 6.
“This ruling means that women soccer in Iran is over,” said Shahrzad Mozafar, the team’s former head coach.
FIFA ruled on Monday that the Islamic dress of the Iranian women football team broke its rules, which ban the manifestation of religious symbols.
In April 2010, FIFA announced that it was planning to ban hijab and other religious outings during the 2012 Olympics.
"Players and officials shall not display political, religious, commercial or personal messages or slogans in any language or form on their playing or team kits," the rules say.
Muslim group furious that UK government will no longer fund their Islamic Caliphate ambitions
Hizb ut-Tahrir's manifesto is bunkers ~ if you do leave Islam you must keep it to yourself ~ or else. A list of madness. Why should any free state fund this. Naturally in this Caliphate dreamworld ~ Muslims will be superior ~ and everyone else will be inferior under the law ~ unless you convert [and become superior!]
Taji Mustafa, media representative of Hizb ut-Tahrir in Britain, rejects coalition's 'colonial' approach:
"This policy has nothing to do with security. It is about forcing a set of values on a community simply because their beliefs do not conform to secular liberal norms, and is proof that liberals can be supremacist.
"After bombing Afghanistan and Pakistan, does Mr Cameron still expect people to believe in the Blairite delusion that it is Islamic beliefs that are the cause of security threats to the UK? Most serious observers have abandoned this discredited world view, which continues to be propagated by some politicians, and self-serving think tanks and academics whose funding relies on such nonsense.
"This Conservative-Liberal government has decided to display an open hostility to Islam - threatening to cut funding to some groups - in order to impose Cameron's definition of 'British' values, and coercing Muslims to leave any Islamic values that the government labels 'extremist'.
"It is worth recalling that the Blair-Brown government's definition of 'extremism' included a belief in the Islamic Caliphate system of governance in the Muslim world; Islamic values in relation to intimate relations between men and women; and views on resistance to Western occupation in the Muslim world.
Terrorism works: Convert & Islamic preacher told students at UK University
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| a.k.a - Abdur Raheem Green found 'peace' in Islamic terrorism |
Now we are seeing the same coercive measures taken against non-Muslims in the west.
Islam was brought to them through the sword and they are governed via the sword. The aim of today's terrorism is to bring the whole world under this same order. The idea has failed repeatedly, once the people start to relax and be normal again, the idea would be to increase the penalties for not following Islam ~ its logical conclusion is 7th century Arabia.
Green is not PC convert to Islam!!
London, June 7: An Islamic preacher told his students that it was difficult to argue with the views of Osama bin Laden and said “terrorism works” during a speech at a university in London.
Abdur Raheem Green, a Muslim convert and former public schoolboy, said that a “permanent state of war exists between the people of Islam and the people who opposed Islam,” while addressing students at University College London (UCL).
He gave the speech to the university’s Islamic society while Umar Farouq Abdulmutallab, the Detroit bomber, was a student there in 2005, the Telegraph reports.
US designates Gaza based 'Army of Islam' as terrorist organization
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| The Army of Islam with the armed wing of the governing Hamas movement and the Popular Resistance Committees, captured Israeli soldier 19-year-old Gilad Shalit. This is not them, this is the Popular Resistance Committee!! |
The United States has designated the Army of Islam, or AOI, as a terrorist organization. The terrorist designation bans Americans from doing business with the group and freezes any assets it might have in the United States.
AOI was founded in 2005 and is based in the Gaza Strip. It has been responsible for numerous terrorist attacks against Israel and Egypt, as well as American, British and New Zealand citizens. These actions include a number of rocket attacks on Israel, the 2006 kidnapping of two Fox News journalists in Gaza, and the 2007 kidnapping of a British citizen, journalist Alan Johnston, in Gaza. The Army of Islam is also responsible for attacks on Egyptian civilians in Cairo and Heliopolis in 2009.
The group is led by Mumtaz Dughmush and operates primarily in the Palestinian territories. It subscribes to a Salafist ideology of global jihad and supports armed Palestinian resistance. The Army of Islam has previously worked with Hamas and is attempting to develop closer ties with al Qaida.
On May 7th, AOI released a eulogy for Osama bin Laden via its Al Nur Media Foundation.
Sunday, June 5, 2011
Malaysia: "Obedient Wife Club" urge Muslim women to be 'whores in the bed'
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| It is like Malaysia is hoping for a different result from doing the same Islamic things again and again! Almost a creepy approach to Islam. Like they are trying too hard. Malaysian Muslims divorce rates are at an all time high ~ one every 15 mins ~ beating out all other groups. |
Islamic group Global Ikhwan held the club's inaugural meeting in Kuala Lumpur, giving women tips on how to keep their men satisfied and prevent them straying.
"A good wife is perceived to be prim and proper -- you just take care of the children -- but not much is emphasised on fulfilling sexual needs of the husband. If he needs sex, obey him," Rohaya Mohamad, the club's vice-president told AFP.
Rohaya said 30 percent of the club members were in polygamous marriages while the rest were in monogamous relationships and that the club was open to non-Muslims.
"You must satisfy your husband. A good wife should be a whore in bed," said 46-year-old doctor, whose husband has three other wives.
She said the club boasted 800 Malaysian members so far with another 200 from across the Middle East.
Over 1,000 guests and supporters turned up for the launch in a leafy suburb, held in conjunction with a mass wedding of ten couples, with the brides all members of the new club.
"If the wife is obedient, then the husband feels good and is entertained and this builds a closer relationship and greater love and no one strays," said groom Mohamad Shurahbil Amran, 23.
His bride Umuhani Lokman Hakim, 19, dressed in a golden white Arabic wedding gown, was unforthcoming when asked why she joined the club and would only say: "It is the right thing to do to keep the family together."
Egypt’s Christians Fear Violence as Changes Embolden Islamists - They Want Equal Rights With Muslims
A slight bit more honesty coming for the New York Times in this article.
Human Rights Watch to their credit did a report on the treatment of converts from Islam in Egypt ~ which is an illegal act. Some choose not to register the birth of their babies, and live in hiding, so they can emerge in the next generation as documented Christians.
Calling the conflicts between Muslim and Christian in Egypt 'sectarian' is inaccurate ~ because it seems to imply that the Christians are responsible for starting an equal portion of these conflicts ~ when nearly 100% start with a Muslim mob ~ openly attacking ~ Christian places of worship, shops and businesses and property ~ with the military or police at times taking part ~ but rarely if ever there to halt these actions.
The 'legal framework that treats Muslims and Christians differently' are the Islamic Sharia dhimmi laws ~ which are in operation to varying extents in every Islamic nation. And are based on the idea of Islamic or Muslim supremacy.
The common ground is our common humanity ~ which Shari'a law acknowledges only for Muslims. There need be no search.
ElBaradei presidential hopeful
Here's an ElBaradei spokesperson ~ says that Egypt needs a bill of rights. They need a proper civil law with no clause II ~ which stipulates laws cannot contradict the Shari'a.
Its a sad dhimmi-ing around ~ because if you are poor in the Muslim world ~ you can think at least I am better than my non-Muslim neighbor ~ as a way to bolster one's self-esteem. But after a thousand years of dhimmitude for non-Muslims ~ someone has to be thinking ~ what has it brought them.
The arrogant ideas pre-revolution, that were coming out of Egypt was that the west needed to learn from the Egyptian example ~ and that western democracy needed Shari'a ~ would hardly be given an ear now. We have laws which establish equality for a reason ~ and across the western/free world has benefited enormously from them.
CAIRO — The headline screamed from a venerable liberal newspaper: Coptic Christians had abducted a young Muslim and tattooed her with a cross. “Copts kidnap Raghada!”
“They tied me up with ropes, beat me with shoes, shaved my hair,” Raghada Salem Abdel Fattah, 19, declared, “and forced me to read Christian psalms!”
Like many similar stories proliferating here since the revolution, Ms. Abdel Fattah’s kidnapping could not be confirmed. But for members of Egypt’s Coptic Christian minority, the sensational headline — from a respected publisher, no less — served to validate their fear that the Egyptian revolution had made their country less tolerant and more dangerous for religious minorities. The Arab Spring initially appeared to open a welcoming door to the dwindling number of Christian Arabs who, after years of feeling marginalized, eagerly joined the call for democracy and rule of law. But now many Christians here say they fear that the fall of the police state has allowed long-simmering tensions to explode, potentially threatening the character of Egypt, and the region.
“Will Christians have equal rights and full citizenship or not?” asked Sarkis Naoum, a Christian commentator in Beirut, Lebanon. A surge of sectarian violence in Cairo — 24 dead, more than 200 wounded and three churches in flames since President Hosni Mubarak’s downfall — has turned Christian-Muslim tensions into one of the gravest threats to the revolution’s stability. But it is also a pivotal test of Egypt’s tolerance, pluralism and the rule of law. The revolution has empowered the majority but also opened new questions about the protection of minority rights like freedom of religion or expression as Islamist groups step forward to lay out their agendas and test their political might.
Around the region, Christians are also closely watching events in Syria, where as in Egypt Christians and other minorities received the protection of a secular dictator, Bashar al-Assad, now facing his own popular uprising.
“The Copts are the crucial test case,” said Heba Morayef, a researcher with Human Rights Watch here, adding that facing off against “societal pressures” may in some ways be ever harder than criticizing a dictator. “It is the next big battle.”
But so far, there is little encouragement in the debate over how to address the sectarian strife. Instead of searching for common ground, all sides are pointing fingers of blame while almost no one is addressing the underlying reasons for the strife, including a legal framework that treats Muslims and Christians differently.
Christians, who make up about 10 percent of the 80 million Egyptians, say the revolution has plunged them into uncharted territory. Suppressed or marginalized for six decades here, Islamists entering politics have rushed to defend an article of the Egyptian Constitution that declares Egypt a Muslim country that derives its laws from Islam. Christians and liberals say privately they abhor the provision, which was first added as a populist gesture by President Anwar el-Sadat. But the article is so popular among Muslims — and the meaning so vague — that even many liberals and Christians entering politics are reluctant to speak out against it, asking at most for slight modifications.
“Our position is that it should stay, but a clause should be added so that in personal issues non-Muslims are subject to the rules of their own religion,” said Naguib Sawiris, a secular-minded Christian tycoon who has started his own liberal party.
He would prefer to remove religion from the laws entirely the way Western separation of church and state does, he said, but that idea could not prevail in Egypt. “Islam doesn’t separate them,” he said.
The most common sparks for sectarian violence, however, come from Egyptian laws dating from the end of the colonial era. One imposes stricter regulations on building churches than on mosques. Christians often look to get around the restrictions by constructing “community centers” with altars and steeples — sometimes provoking Muslim accusations of deceit and Christian charges of discrimination.
Often, Christians who want to divorce convert to Islam — and try, after the divorce, to convert back. The law has spawned many rumors of sectarian “kidnappings” to abet or prevent such a conversion for some Coptic women. The rumors ignite most outbreaks of Muslim-Christian violence, including at least three riots since the revolution, and many other controversies. In Ms. Abdel Fattah’s case, the Cairo police said the account was fabricated, while Ms. Abdel Fattah’s mother said her daughter was too traumatized to speak to reporters.
But despite widespread recognition of the law’s role as a catalyst of sectarian violence, the idea that civic law should enforce religious morals is so deeply embedded here that almost no one is proposing to alter the rule.
“It is explosive,” said Hossam Bahgat, founder of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, one of the few groups that advocate changing the law to at least allow the choice of a civil, nonreligious marriage.
When Copts held a weeklong sit-in to demand equal legal treatment, many who attended nonetheless insisted on the preservation of separate, binding laws on Christian marriages. “So no one will be able to get around the religion,” said Yusef George, a 30-year-old businessman. A spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s largest Islamist group, said it, too, supported the rule.
Some blame their own church for depending too much on Mr. Mubarak. In a pattern common to Syria, Iraq and elsewhere, Coptic leaders cultivated the patronage of Egypt’s secular dictator, with Coptic Pope Shenouda III trading political support for favors and protection. As in Iraq, with the leader deposed, the Christians felt exposed.
“Coptic rights were reserved to be discussed between Mubarak and the pope,” said Mona Makram Ebeid, a Coptic scholar and former lawmaker who suspended her membership in the liberal Wafd party because its newspaper published the headline about Ms. Abdel Fattah, “and the Copts were left out of it completely.”
Church leaders, in turn, blame Islamic fundamentalists they say the revolution has emboldened. “They don’t want any Copts present in Egypt,” said Father Armia Adly, a spokesman for the church.
The Muslim Brotherhood, meanwhile, has named a Christian as deputy leader of its new political party. “We are calling for a civil state,” said Essam el-Erian, a prominent leader of the Brotherhood, adding that the group hoped to promote laws derived from the elements of Islamic law common to other great religions, like “freedom of worship and faith, equality between people, and human rights and human dignity.”
Still, many liberals argue the sectarian conflicts prove Egypt should establish a permanent “bill of rights” to protect religious and personal freedoms before holding elections that could give power to an Islamist majority. It would “remove the sense of angst that exists today in Egypt,” said a spokeswoman for Mohamed ElBaradei, a liberal presidential contender.
New York Times
“The Copts are the crucial test case,” said Heba Morayef, a researcher with Human Rights Watch here, adding that facing off against “societal pressures” may in some ways be ever harder than criticizing a dictator. “It is the next big battle.”
Human Rights Watch to their credit did a report on the treatment of converts from Islam in Egypt ~ which is an illegal act. Some choose not to register the birth of their babies, and live in hiding, so they can emerge in the next generation as documented Christians.
But so far, there is little encouragement in the debate over how to address the sectarian strife. Instead of searching for common ground, all sides are pointing fingers of blame while almost no one is addressing the underlying reasons for the strife, including a legal framework that treats Muslims and Christians differently.
Calling the conflicts between Muslim and Christian in Egypt 'sectarian' is inaccurate ~ because it seems to imply that the Christians are responsible for starting an equal portion of these conflicts ~ when nearly 100% start with a Muslim mob ~ openly attacking ~ Christian places of worship, shops and businesses and property ~ with the military or police at times taking part ~ but rarely if ever there to halt these actions.
The 'legal framework that treats Muslims and Christians differently' are the Islamic Sharia dhimmi laws ~ which are in operation to varying extents in every Islamic nation. And are based on the idea of Islamic or Muslim supremacy.
The common ground is our common humanity ~ which Shari'a law acknowledges only for Muslims. There need be no search.
ElBaradei presidential hopeful
Here's an ElBaradei spokesperson ~ says that Egypt needs a bill of rights. They need a proper civil law with no clause II ~ which stipulates laws cannot contradict the Shari'a.
Still, many liberals argue the sectarian conflicts prove Egypt should establish a permanent “bill of rights” to protect religious and personal freedoms before holding elections that could give power to an Islamist majority. It would “remove the sense of angst that exists today in Egypt,” said a spokeswoman for Mohamed ElBaradei, a liberal presidential contender.
Its a sad dhimmi-ing around ~ because if you are poor in the Muslim world ~ you can think at least I am better than my non-Muslim neighbor ~ as a way to bolster one's self-esteem. But after a thousand years of dhimmitude for non-Muslims ~ someone has to be thinking ~ what has it brought them.
The arrogant ideas pre-revolution, that were coming out of Egypt was that the west needed to learn from the Egyptian example ~ and that western democracy needed Shari'a ~ would hardly be given an ear now. We have laws which establish equality for a reason ~ and across the western/free world has benefited enormously from them.
CAIRO — The headline screamed from a venerable liberal newspaper: Coptic Christians had abducted a young Muslim and tattooed her with a cross. “Copts kidnap Raghada!”
“They tied me up with ropes, beat me with shoes, shaved my hair,” Raghada Salem Abdel Fattah, 19, declared, “and forced me to read Christian psalms!”
Like many similar stories proliferating here since the revolution, Ms. Abdel Fattah’s kidnapping could not be confirmed. But for members of Egypt’s Coptic Christian minority, the sensational headline — from a respected publisher, no less — served to validate their fear that the Egyptian revolution had made their country less tolerant and more dangerous for religious minorities. The Arab Spring initially appeared to open a welcoming door to the dwindling number of Christian Arabs who, after years of feeling marginalized, eagerly joined the call for democracy and rule of law. But now many Christians here say they fear that the fall of the police state has allowed long-simmering tensions to explode, potentially threatening the character of Egypt, and the region.
“Will Christians have equal rights and full citizenship or not?” asked Sarkis Naoum, a Christian commentator in Beirut, Lebanon. A surge of sectarian violence in Cairo — 24 dead, more than 200 wounded and three churches in flames since President Hosni Mubarak’s downfall — has turned Christian-Muslim tensions into one of the gravest threats to the revolution’s stability. But it is also a pivotal test of Egypt’s tolerance, pluralism and the rule of law. The revolution has empowered the majority but also opened new questions about the protection of minority rights like freedom of religion or expression as Islamist groups step forward to lay out their agendas and test their political might.
Around the region, Christians are also closely watching events in Syria, where as in Egypt Christians and other minorities received the protection of a secular dictator, Bashar al-Assad, now facing his own popular uprising.
“The Copts are the crucial test case,” said Heba Morayef, a researcher with Human Rights Watch here, adding that facing off against “societal pressures” may in some ways be ever harder than criticizing a dictator. “It is the next big battle.”
But so far, there is little encouragement in the debate over how to address the sectarian strife. Instead of searching for common ground, all sides are pointing fingers of blame while almost no one is addressing the underlying reasons for the strife, including a legal framework that treats Muslims and Christians differently.
Christians, who make up about 10 percent of the 80 million Egyptians, say the revolution has plunged them into uncharted territory. Suppressed or marginalized for six decades here, Islamists entering politics have rushed to defend an article of the Egyptian Constitution that declares Egypt a Muslim country that derives its laws from Islam. Christians and liberals say privately they abhor the provision, which was first added as a populist gesture by President Anwar el-Sadat. But the article is so popular among Muslims — and the meaning so vague — that even many liberals and Christians entering politics are reluctant to speak out against it, asking at most for slight modifications.
“Our position is that it should stay, but a clause should be added so that in personal issues non-Muslims are subject to the rules of their own religion,” said Naguib Sawiris, a secular-minded Christian tycoon who has started his own liberal party.
He would prefer to remove religion from the laws entirely the way Western separation of church and state does, he said, but that idea could not prevail in Egypt. “Islam doesn’t separate them,” he said.
The most common sparks for sectarian violence, however, come from Egyptian laws dating from the end of the colonial era. One imposes stricter regulations on building churches than on mosques. Christians often look to get around the restrictions by constructing “community centers” with altars and steeples — sometimes provoking Muslim accusations of deceit and Christian charges of discrimination.
Often, Christians who want to divorce convert to Islam — and try, after the divorce, to convert back. The law has spawned many rumors of sectarian “kidnappings” to abet or prevent such a conversion for some Coptic women. The rumors ignite most outbreaks of Muslim-Christian violence, including at least three riots since the revolution, and many other controversies. In Ms. Abdel Fattah’s case, the Cairo police said the account was fabricated, while Ms. Abdel Fattah’s mother said her daughter was too traumatized to speak to reporters.
But despite widespread recognition of the law’s role as a catalyst of sectarian violence, the idea that civic law should enforce religious morals is so deeply embedded here that almost no one is proposing to alter the rule.
“It is explosive,” said Hossam Bahgat, founder of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, one of the few groups that advocate changing the law to at least allow the choice of a civil, nonreligious marriage.
When Copts held a weeklong sit-in to demand equal legal treatment, many who attended nonetheless insisted on the preservation of separate, binding laws on Christian marriages. “So no one will be able to get around the religion,” said Yusef George, a 30-year-old businessman. A spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s largest Islamist group, said it, too, supported the rule.
Some blame their own church for depending too much on Mr. Mubarak. In a pattern common to Syria, Iraq and elsewhere, Coptic leaders cultivated the patronage of Egypt’s secular dictator, with Coptic Pope Shenouda III trading political support for favors and protection. As in Iraq, with the leader deposed, the Christians felt exposed.
“Coptic rights were reserved to be discussed between Mubarak and the pope,” said Mona Makram Ebeid, a Coptic scholar and former lawmaker who suspended her membership in the liberal Wafd party because its newspaper published the headline about Ms. Abdel Fattah, “and the Copts were left out of it completely.”
Church leaders, in turn, blame Islamic fundamentalists they say the revolution has emboldened. “They don’t want any Copts present in Egypt,” said Father Armia Adly, a spokesman for the church.
The Muslim Brotherhood, meanwhile, has named a Christian as deputy leader of its new political party. “We are calling for a civil state,” said Essam el-Erian, a prominent leader of the Brotherhood, adding that the group hoped to promote laws derived from the elements of Islamic law common to other great religions, like “freedom of worship and faith, equality between people, and human rights and human dignity.”
Still, many liberals argue the sectarian conflicts prove Egypt should establish a permanent “bill of rights” to protect religious and personal freedoms before holding elections that could give power to an Islamist majority. It would “remove the sense of angst that exists today in Egypt,” said a spokeswoman for Mohamed ElBaradei, a liberal presidential contender.
New York Times
Keep the Persecution of Egypt's Christians in Correct Perspective
The Catholic press tries to address some of the downplaying of the media reports of attacks on Coptic Christians ~ offering a bit of history. And it focuses on the contents of a Reuters article.
Imagine this lot outside of your church/place of worship!!
Christians arrested from praying outside of a church [in a house] without a permit, when churches are not allowed to be built!
KNOXVILLE, TN (Catholic Online) - On May 26, 2011, Reuters published an article, "Christians Worry Egypt Being Hijacked by Islamists." The article begins by informing us about Coptic fears of rising Islamist fundamentalism since Mubarak stepped down as President of Egypt in February of this year, but then it seems to downplay those fears. Consequently, I am reminded how important it is for us keep the harsh reality which the Copts are experiencing in proper perspective. With this thought in mind, I will review four points mentioned in the Reuters article.
First, the article seems to associate the Copts' fear of rising Islamist fundamentalism with a group called the Salafists. Of course, such fears have other roots too, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, but the Salafists appear to be responsible for much of the increased violence and tensions in Egypt of late.
The Salafis are followers of a movement that models itself on Islam's patristic [early] period. The Salafis believe that this time period, which lasted for the first three generations, reflects the pure and authoritative teaching and practice of Islam. Contemporary Salafism is seen as a literal and puritanical approach to Islam, and a minority of Salafis espouse violent jihad against the civilian population. Members of this violent minority are referred to as Salafists.
The article mentions a few. For instance, Copts are severely restricted when it comes to employment opportunities for government jobs. They want equal opportunity. The history of the Copts is not included in school textbooks, and they want it included in the curriculum. In addition, Copts are not allowed to build or repair their churches unless they get special permits which are not required for mosques, so they want these restrictions eased.
Although this list is far from complete, it gives us some idea how restricted the Copts are in present-day Egyptian society.
Imagine this lot outside of your church/place of worship!!
Christians arrested from praying outside of a church [in a house] without a permit, when churches are not allowed to be built!
KNOXVILLE, TN (Catholic Online) - On May 26, 2011, Reuters published an article, "Christians Worry Egypt Being Hijacked by Islamists." The article begins by informing us about Coptic fears of rising Islamist fundamentalism since Mubarak stepped down as President of Egypt in February of this year, but then it seems to downplay those fears. Consequently, I am reminded how important it is for us keep the harsh reality which the Copts are experiencing in proper perspective. With this thought in mind, I will review four points mentioned in the Reuters article.
First, the article seems to associate the Copts' fear of rising Islamist fundamentalism with a group called the Salafists. Of course, such fears have other roots too, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, but the Salafists appear to be responsible for much of the increased violence and tensions in Egypt of late.
The Salafis are followers of a movement that models itself on Islam's patristic [early] period. The Salafis believe that this time period, which lasted for the first three generations, reflects the pure and authoritative teaching and practice of Islam. Contemporary Salafism is seen as a literal and puritanical approach to Islam, and a minority of Salafis espouse violent jihad against the civilian population. Members of this violent minority are referred to as Salafists.
Egyptian Military Court Prosecutes Only Christians in Muslim Church Attacks
| Islamic day out ~ Attack a Church Day!! |
Whenever Muslims attack in Egypt ~ Christians are jailed ~ if it happens otherwise ~ there would be true surprise.
On the morning of May 19 two Coptic priests went to St. Mary and St. Abraham Church in Ain Shams and opened it together with some of the Coptic residents, but later in the day thousands of Muslims surrounded the church to protest its opening, hurled stones at the church building and the Copts, who responded by throwing stones. The army and the police stood there watching and did not intervene (video).
Here is an account from one of the jailed Copts:
Emad Ayyad said he was looking down the street from his balcony and saw his son Ayad Emad Ayad arguing with an officer, so he went down to see his son. The officer took him together with his son and shoved them in the police armored car along with a black handbag which belonged to the officer, as evidence to use against them. The police did not say how the weapons were confiscated from them. According to forensics no shots were fired from the weapons.
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| Egyptian Coptic Christians demonstrate in Cairo in March |
Copts, who held a sit-in earlier this month after Muslim mobs attacked to churches elsewhere in Cairo, said the government had promised to reopen closed churches, including the one in Ain Shams. [+]
The thing you want to know is that you never want to live in an Islamic country as a native non-Muslim. Its hell on earth. Here they are just trying to reopen a church. Its the same in Pakistan ~ in both places there has to be sufficient international attention for authorities to act on the behalf of the Christians ~ even when people are killed.
(AINA) -- A Military court in Egypt has sentenced three Christian Copts to 5-years imprisonment on charges of possession of firearms and pocket knives. The Court released all other Muslims and Copts arrested following clashes on May 19 over the re-opening of St. Mary and St. Abraham churches in Ain Shams West (AINA 5-24-2011). Copts Emad Ayyad and Ayman Youssef Halim were convicted of carrying firearms. Emad Ayyam's son, Ayad Emad Ayad, was convicted of carrying a pocket knife.
Eight Copts, mostly students, were arrested in Ain Shams West and charged with rioting, violence and causing injury to citizens. Three of the Copts were also charged with possession of firearms and knives. Police arrested three under-age Muslims on charges of throwing stones at the army.
Defense lawyer Abraham Edward said "This is a very unjust, severe and cruel verdict." He said that as lawyers they are unable to fathom what is going on. "Today's case is very strange, a case where there is not one shred of evidence to indict them. If this case went in front of the International Court of Justice they would all be set free." He criticized the five-year prison sentence handed down to Ayad Emad Ayad for carrying a pocket knife. According to the law this is punishable by a six months suspended sentence.
Fear of power vacuum as Yemeni president flees to Saudi Arabia
These ultra religious countries scare people off ~ tourism, no industry ~ tourists suffer from jihadist attack and kidnap. The country becomes hostile and unwelcoming. Diplomats have been attacked from the UK as well as South Korea. It is not clear how this country will emerge from this situation. Its like Muslims want friends, but they want them at the North Pole.
Fears are growing of a power vacuum in Yemen that could be exploited by terrorists, after the president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, and several senior government ministers fled to Saudi Arabia on Saturday.
The president, prime minister, speakers of both houses of parliament, and several senior officials, were wounded in an attack on the presidential place on Friday, but how seriously is not known.
Abdo al-Janadi, the deputy information minister, told Al Jazeera television that Mr. Saleh’s powers had devolved to the vice-president, Abdo Rabu Mansur Hadi, “until the president returns.”
“The state has its institutions that can deal with these kinds of circumstances,” Mr al-Janadi said. “Constitutional procedures will be followed.”
Protesters in the central city of Taiz launched fireworks and sang songs throughout the night in Freedom Square, a week after it was burnt and bulldozed by the army.
“The reaction to Saleh departure was spontaneous as huge marches went out in the city and people fired fireworks to celebrate the event,” said activist Bushra al-Maqtari from Taiz. “Everyone is happy for the departure of the president.”
But although predictions of a rapid escalation of Yemen’s violence into an all-out civil war following Friday’s attack, Saturday have proved unfounded so far, western governments fear extremists such as al-Qaidia in the Arabian Peninsula will take advantage of the chaos.
President Barack Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, held talks with ken with Mr Hadi about events in Yemen on Saturday, the White Hose said.
Fears are growing of a power vacuum in Yemen that could be exploited by terrorists, after the president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, and several senior government ministers fled to Saudi Arabia on Saturday.
The president, prime minister, speakers of both houses of parliament, and several senior officials, were wounded in an attack on the presidential place on Friday, but how seriously is not known.
Abdo al-Janadi, the deputy information minister, told Al Jazeera television that Mr. Saleh’s powers had devolved to the vice-president, Abdo Rabu Mansur Hadi, “until the president returns.”
“The state has its institutions that can deal with these kinds of circumstances,” Mr al-Janadi said. “Constitutional procedures will be followed.”
Protesters in the central city of Taiz launched fireworks and sang songs throughout the night in Freedom Square, a week after it was burnt and bulldozed by the army.
“The reaction to Saleh departure was spontaneous as huge marches went out in the city and people fired fireworks to celebrate the event,” said activist Bushra al-Maqtari from Taiz. “Everyone is happy for the departure of the president.”
But although predictions of a rapid escalation of Yemen’s violence into an all-out civil war following Friday’s attack, Saturday have proved unfounded so far, western governments fear extremists such as al-Qaidia in the Arabian Peninsula will take advantage of the chaos.
President Barack Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, held talks with ken with Mr Hadi about events in Yemen on Saturday, the White Hose said.
Friday, June 3, 2011
Anatomy of Thought Crime - Robert Spencer's tough ride at Ohio University - Video
It appears that while your average student was scared off ~ the people who did attend ~ seem to be Muslim or having some direct connection to Islam.
Its embarrassing because if Islam was a religion that promoted humility ~ it would not be having these problems.
Its crazy, because on one side you have human nature ~ where there are no differences ~ Muslims have these rules from Islam ~ really directing their behavior against their better nature ~ if followed to the letter. So that long term Muslims and today's new ~ especially politically correct converts ~ [the new converts that run with al Qaeda and the like, got the whole message] ~ but for the others they are stuck explaining the more radical and troubling parts of the Islamic doctrine. They are literally trying to iron out its lumps, at least publicly, that just won't go away.
Understanding Muslims
On one side ~ there has to be some understanding for Muslims ~ because in most of the countries they come from ~ they can't legally leave the religion ~ your father was Muslim and you will be Muslim and your children and your grandchildren will be Muslim ~ or else!! That's conditioning ~ they are conditioned to fear ~ the consequences ~ of having a single thought that in anyway questions of challenges the religion. And its contagious ~ because now they want us to feel that same fear!! What in the western world ~ especially to do with religion ~ we can't question ~ say Islam!!
We have got to question all over it!!
The Muslim guy in this video who picks up the mic ~ who says that there is no jizya or tax on non-Muslims in Islam ~ as Robert Spencer rightly points to Koran 9:29, the jizya's collection was only stopped in the Islamic world on western colonization. And it is still collected now in the tribal regions of Pakistan. Hindus and Sikhs are now forced to pay it ~ many flee to safer parts or to India. They also have to wear a red patch on their clothes ~ in some parts to show that they are non-Muslim.
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| Imam Rauf |
700 Jews
700 Jews were attacked in Mecca ~ and the Muslims took the women as wives and slaves ~ Muhammad took one for himself but she refused to marry him.
This protection he is talking about ~ is similar in terms of the Mafia ~ everything is going okay ~ they attack you, then you find you need protection ~ hence the jizya ~ which is literally a protection tax. Which is why Turkey was recently thinking about reintroducing it ~ as a way to protect Christians living there from attack. As was done during the Ottoman Empire years ~ sadly when the Christians asked for equal rights ~ it was deemed offensive ~ where Muslim and non-Muslims cannot be equal [under Shari'a] ~ and the rest is history. There are no Christians.
Muhammad's problem with the Jews was not personal ~ he was attacking everyone. He was saying my new Kaaba religion [versus the old] contains your Judaism plus Christianity all rolled into one! And the brushed him off. They already had a god ~ and Muhammad wanted them to worship his Kaaba god stripped of all the other Kaaba gods. They did not buy it and he killed them ~ and he obviously never got over it ~ as the Koran is laced with anti-Jew text. At one stage to bring in the Jews he had his followers pray towards Jerusalem ~ when he made no headway it was back to facing Mecca.
Deceiving you
This is the problem ~ that is why Robert Spencer and others are making this effort ~ because Islamic values and the values established in the west are not the same ~ if anyone tells that they are ~ then they are deceiving you ~ and attempting to turn us into places like Egypt or Pakistan ~ where if you are a Muslims you have limited rights and as a non-Muslim you have significantly less. [They face not only religious and political restrictions, but who they can marry]
This is based on the dhimmi laws ~ where the Jews of Mecca took protection from attack ~ a part of the deal was that they also had to be subjugated. The dhimmi status was only for the Jews and the Christians at first ~ that meant if you worshipped any of the pre-Islamic Kaaba gods, or other local deities ~ if you did not convert to Islam ~ there was no dhimmi protection for you ~ you were slaughtered, raped [Muhammad ordered his men to rape non-Muslim women in front of theirs husbands ~ when he saw some of his men were reluctant]. It was literally convert or die!!
9/11 Mosque and the Rabat
One the site of conquest or attack or seizure ~ Muhammad ordered a Rabat to be built ~ which was impart a community center, a garrison to carry or further attacks and a mosque to propagate the Islamic message in the newly acquired area.
Islamic group's Jesus ad offends Christians
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| Jesus ad, which is soon to appear on public buses in Sydney, Australia, has drawn fire from a Catholic bishop Muhammad likely would have did everything in his power not to kill Jesus!! Not a match made in heaven ~ but perhaps Jesus could forgive Muhammad. Here is a good sign: Jesus forgives Muhammad!! Muhammad repents of his sins! |
Islam originates from the Kaaba ~ which was there for 700 before Islam ~ plenty of time to accept Jesus!! But they did not. It was a place where any number of Gods could be worshiped and it was only through Muhammad's sword that they were forced to get rid of them. It was probably on the whole a nice place to go ~ on making the pre-Islamic Hajj to Mecca you could bring any God.
The Goddess or Daughters of Allah were worshipped in Syria, and across the region and even in Greece ~ where Allah's daughter Al-Lat became Leto. And it was 800 years after Muhammad that Arabia finally stamped out the worship of the Goddesses.
It is possible that some of the people who were fighting for the spread of Islam did not fully understand it ~ because what they were supposed to be saying, that within the pantheon or Allah family you should now only worship Allad the Dad. But some people did not quite get this, in India ~ there is a mosque which is dedicated ~ I believe to the Goddesses Al-Uzza and possibly the other goddesses ~ mentioned in the Koran 53:19 ~ as they believe they were important to the prophet. And they were right. Hence the Salman Rushdie trouble ~ in his satire the Satanic Verses ~ he suggested that perhaps Muhammad ~ or the Angel Gabriel was correct the first time. To curry favor Muhammad, after saying don't worship the Goddesses of his father ~ he said worship them. And then some months or a year later ~ its don't worship them again. But period was long enough for the news to have traveled to Ethiopia ~ where some Kaaba worshipers rejoiced at Muhammad's change of heart ~ in allowed the Goddesses to be worshiped again.
Obviously these things go to the heart of Islam ~ and the story as they want it to be told ~ that is why you had the Iranian fatwa against Salman Rushdie where every Muslim in the world was required to kill him for so-called offending Islam.
Freedom two way street
That is why we need freedom of speech ~ because Muslims can say offensive things. If you look at Jesus's life and compare it to Muhammad's there is no way he could have been following Jesus. In this sense ~ linking the two up ~ becomes offensive to many. It is clear that many Muslims can't even fathom some of Muhammad's antics. But a lot of them are afraid to question it. And that fear is real. At the same time ~ Muslims should also accept that people are going to say things which they find offensive. A part of their objection ~ is an expression of that fear ~ in the past when Islam entered a place it was usually through violence ~ and any challenges to it were dealt with violently ~ with the majority of western Muslims being immigrants ~ when someone challenges Islam ~ they are expecting some sort of violent response ~ because they have been so conditioned. And because they make so much noise, the temptation is to somehow alter freedoms to accommodate this ~ and that would be wrong ~ because you would quickly end up with an Islamic state ~ they can say Jesus was a Prophet of Islam ~ but all of the challenges to Islam would be deeded too offensive. That is the typical Islamic state ~ only Muslim sensitiveness are legally obliged.
(CNSNews.com) – “Jesus: A prophet of Islam” states the provocative tagline in a “public awareness” advertising campaign launched by a Muslim group in Australia’s largest city.
The group, calling itself Mypeace, says its aim is to inform, not offend – but offend it has, with one Catholic bishop calling the assertion about Jesus “a direct assault on Christian beliefs.”
Roadside billboards in the metropolitan Sydney area carry one of four simple slogans: “Jesus: A Prophet of Islam,” “Holy Qur’an: The Final Testament,” “Muhammad: Mercy to Mankind” and “Islam: Got Questions? Get Answers.”
Each banner invites people to get in touch by phone or online, for literature and a free copy of the Qur’an. Mypeace says the ads will stay up for four weeks, and later this year will be run on scores of public buses in the city.
One of the billboards featuring the Jesus slogan was vandalized a day after it was erected.
Mypeace says its aim is to “address the many misconceptions on Islam, to educate fellow Australians on Islam, invite them to ask any questions that they may have.”
Islamic awareness campaigns are not new, but the slogan referring to Jesus is causing a stir. Muslims and interfaith advocates sometimes invoke Jesus to assert some sort of commonality with Christians, implying that Muslims, too, “believe in Jesus.”
Two of the ads placed by an Australian Muslim group on billboards in Sydney. (Image: Mypeace)
But Muslims, and the Qur’an, deny the central Christian beliefs regarding Jesus – his divinity, crucifixion and resurrection.
Elsewhere on its Web site, Mypeace states that “the Qur’an … repeatedly reminds that Jesus was a human prophet sent by God, not part of God Himself.”
“In Australia with its Christian heritage a billboard carrying the statement ‘Jesus A prophet of Islam’ is provocative and offensive to Christians,” Julian Porteous, auxiliary bishop at the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney, responded in an article.
“Central to Christianity is the belief that Jesus Christ is more than a prophet,” he said. “He is the Son of God. He is acclaimed Lord and Savior of humanity. This statement is a direct assault on Christian beliefs.”
Porteous said religions should not “set out to antagonize those with differing beliefs.”
“Dialogue between the religions can only take place when it is founded in mutual respect. It is not fostered by provocative statements.”
Porteous urged Mypeace to withdraw the ads.
Islamic doctrine holds that the 7th century Arabian Mohammed was the last in a long line of prophets of Islam stretching back to Adam, and including Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, Jonah, John the Baptist – and Jesus. (The “Got Questions?” ad in Sydney also describes Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed as “prophets of Islam”.)
Pakistani journalist killed after investigative report on military base assault
Its a disaster up there!
He went missing in Islamabad while on way to participate in a TV talk show on 29 May. Two days before his abduction, Saleem Shahzad published an article in the Asia Times Online investigating reasons behind a daring militant attack on a highly guarded naval base in Karachi.
Shahzad was the third journalist killed this year. The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) has termed Pakistan the “deadliest in the world for journalists”.
Islamabad, 1 June (AKI) - Pakistani Qamar Yousafzai five years ago spent time in captivity with fellow reporter and compatriot Saleem Shahzad. Shazad's battered corpse was identified on Tuesday, two days after his disappearance. Now Yousafzai doesn't want Shazad's case to go unsolved and is asking for his friend's killers to be brought to justice.
"I appeal to the world's journalist community to get justice. Or for the Pakistani government to help us find the truth. I ask all to please take a strong stand on this case.
"If we have the investigative journalistic knowledge we will reach our goal," Yousafzai, an editor for Islamabad Times and a freelance journalist, said Wednesday in an e-mailed statement sent to Adnkronos International (AKI).
Shahzad's body was identified in eastern Punjab province and was brought to Islamabad. His body showed signs of torture and a news report said he was shot in the stomach. Following his disappearance, reports said he was being held by the powerful Pakistani secret service, the Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI.
Shahzad's death prompted Pakistani interior minister Rehman Malik to announce the legalisation of small-calibre arms for journalists.
Since 2010, 15 Pakistani journalists have been killed, making Pakistan one of the world's most dangerous countries for the profession, according to press watchdog Reporters Without Borders.
"I'm not afraid of these militants. We're reporting on the war on terrorism and we must work for peace," he told AKI by telephone on Wednesday from Islamabad.
Artwork ~ Bride in Burqa ~ Covered Up - Too Sensitive!!
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| Aidan Salakhova's sculptures, including the work "Waiting Bride" (right), have been covered by sheets |
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| This the real Black Stone of the Kaaba in Mecca and is the focus of all Muslim prayer it is the only thing that is allowed to be used for intercession with Allah. After Muhammad successfully defeated his relatives for control of the Kaaba, he ran over and kissed the stone. A practise to this day Muslims try to emulate. Allah was the supreme God of the Kaaba in pre-Islamic times. Muhammad's family were keepers of the Kaaba for 700 years before Islam. Allah was said to have three daughter ~ mentioned in Koran 53:19. Find out more about Allah's Daughter here. |
“I am very surprised as the Azerbaijan government was aware of the works I planned to bring to Venice,” Salakhova told The Art Newspaper. In the official press material for the pavilion, she had written: “I am very proud to represent Azerbaijan, a secular country where Islam and civility are closely woven together.” The Azerbaijan Culture Ministry could not be reached for comment.
Yet another nail in the coffin for Bin Laden - A pork fat bullet may have been used
Do Islamic jihadists require halal bullets??
Did a pork-coated bullet kill Bin Laden? Yes, says firm who claim its pig fat gun oil is bought by U.S. military personnel
Dubious: Osama bin Laden 'was killed by a pork-soaked bullet, if one rather shady website, that peddles gun oil containing pig fat, is to be believed
Was Osama bin Laden shot with a bullet soaked in pork fat, denying him a place in paradise?
Yes, if one rather shady website, that peddles gun oil containing liquefied pig fat, is to be believed.
The makers of Silver Bullet Gun Oil claim it contains 13 per cent USDA liquefied pig fat thus making the product 'a highly effective counter-Islamic terrorist force multiplier.'
The apparent owner of the gun oil site, who goes by the name 'The Midnight Rider,' explains how the pig fat will transfer onto anything the bullet strikes.
This 'effectively denies entry to Allah's paradise to an Islamo-fascist terrorist,' Rider adds.
Thursday, June 2, 2011
High court action in Pakistan to ban 'offensive' and 'blasphemous' Holy Bible
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| Apparently it is better understood in Arabic!! |
But it seems that some of its stories ~ offend Muslim sensibilities!!
Subtle threat ~ any excuse for jihad:
There were no chances of any clash between the two religions as long as the courts are functioning, said Farooqi. “Our lawyers are preparing to ask the court to ban the book; we will not follow in the footsteps of Terry Jones and burn the holy book”, he said.
He is also saying ~ that if the court doesn't give us our way ~ then we might attack.
Muslims simply don't get Christianity ~ there is not the same slavery to the scripture ~ large portions of the Old Testament are seen as stories and historical accounts. They are not going to kill anyone because they disagree with these!!
Party leader Maulana Abdul Rauf Farooqi and other clerics quoted “immoral Biblical stories” and stated that “such insertions strongly offend Muslims, who hold all prophets and holy books in high esteem as part of religious belief and never even think of committing any blasphemy against them.”
Clueless...
Unlike the Koran there is no call for violence ~ for the establishment of a Shar'iatopia. Whereas calls for the Koran to be banned in the west are based on the book's incitement to violence.
Speaking of cover ups
There are some attempts to ban the Islamic history in India. Historical accounts show 60 million to 100 million ~ slaughtered on Islam's foray into India ~ many of these accounts where from Muslim leaders themselves. In recent years a group of Muslims applied to the court ~ to have this history negated or banned ~ because it was deemed 'offensive' to India's Muslims.
In the interest of getting along a lot of things will have to be forgotten ~ but since the 1970's some Hindus are saying that 49 million Hindus of Pakistan and Bangladesh ~ have disappeared off census records. And that these governments have never fully explained this occurrence. This with just 3.1 million Hindu converts to Islam. [Perhaps it offers insight into Pakistan's relationship with its militants ~ partners in crime?]
Hindus make up a mere 1.85% of the Pakistani population now ~ down from 25-30% during the time of the Partition in 1947.
Christian politicians and Church leaders June 2 strongly condemned allegations made by a Muslim organisation of “pornography” in the Bible.
Julius Salik, convener of World Minorities Alliance and a former federal minister, said it was an injustice to Christians and a violation of their religious freedom.
“The undue interference in our religious matters would cause disputes and discord among the followers of both religions”, he stated in a press statement.
A religious political party is seeking redress for what it claims is “pornographic” content in the Bible.
Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam appealed to the Supreme Court of Pakistan to examine “blasphemous materials” in the Bible during a press conference on May 30 in Lahore.
Saudi Arabia Looks to Ban Child Brides
Looks as in 'looks at' a ban on child marriages ~ like that rolling desert out there nothing much changes quickly.
The practice of families marrying off their underage girls to elderly, usually wealthy, men has long been criticized by local and international human rights organizations. But the most conservative Saudis, including many in the religious establishment, are loath to disrupt age-old customs that are often assumed to have a basis in Islam as well.
"It is wrong to claim that marrying a girl under the age of 15 is unlawful," Al Al-Sheikh asserted girls when the debate on child marriage peaked in 2009. "When a female passes the age of ten or twelve, she is ready for marriage, and anyone who claims otherwise wrongs her."
Thus many activists are sceptical that the minimum age will see its way into the law anytime soon. Huwaider said Saudi Arabia's decision makers were not "brave enough to protect the little girls,” a view echoed by Khuloud Al-Fahad, a Saudi women's rights activist from Dhahran, who said she welcomed the Shoura Council's vote.
"I'm not optimistic at all that this will become law," Al-Fahad told The Media Line. "The radical Islamists are the ones who decide, and they don't believe in women's rights."
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| Possibly Hamas members each taking a child bride!! If that is true it looks like a crime. |
But effort to make marriage more female-friendly raises conservatives’ ire
The case of a nine-year-old girl given away in marriage by her father to a 58-year-old man because of argument with his wife shocked many Saudis. Widespread media coverage brought the plight of child brides to the fore in the oil-rich Gulf kingdom where no law currently protects children like "the Unayzah girl," as she was called after her home town, from the misery of early marriage.
That was two years ago. Finally, the Shoura Council, Saudi Arabia's 150-member consultative body, voted this week by a large margin in favor of setting a minimum marriage age for women. The council is only an advisory body, so the matter has been sent to the Justice Ministry for enactment. Government sources told the on-line daily Ilaf that the ministry would set the minimum marriage age at 17.
"The only way to stop this legal rape is to pass a law," Wajeha Al-Huwaider, a Saudi woman activist, told The Media Line. "They can start with age 15, like most Gulf countries, and then they gradually increase it."
Wilders calls Islam ‘an ideology of hatred’ in demanding acquittal
Geert Wilders, the inflammatory Dutch legislator charged with racial hate and discrimination for his anti-Islam comments, demanded he be acquitted Wednesday as his trial came to a close.
Wilders insisted he was “defending freedom” despite advocating a ban on the Koran [a book which calls for attacks on those who don't believe in it ~ that incites violence and everlasting bigotry] and other symbols of Islamic expression [The Swiss did the same and so have the French and Belgium ~ and the Netherlands will follow also ~ the tide has turned.]. He went on trial last October for criticising Islam and likening the Koran to Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” [Does this buch call for more livingroom ~ for the spread of a supremacist ideology!].
Muslims across Europe don't want to integrate ~ because they reject ~ the very idea of freedom. Their ideas on freedom are limited to the practise of Islam and the forcible or otherwise ~ effort to get others to respect the same.
Other than this it is just a game.
What do we have to gain from being more like the Islamic world? Imagine that too can be ours!! And if it is so great why are Muslims fleeing to Europe ~ and any part of the free world they can get to?
The Islamic world ~ in all its disastrous state is their work. They reject religious freedoms they reject basic rights ~ and they puzzle over why they live in a dictatorship? But these Islamic ideas laced with fear and dread of what might happen if they are abandoned ~ die hard. And everywhere they go becomes another outpost to set up another Islamic state ~ just like the one they left ~ they only hope that in this one there will be more money and for many state subsidies ~ paid by the non-Muslim peoples.
We can say no!
“I do not encourage hatred, I do not encourage discrimination,” Wilders, 47, insisted. “I defend the character, the identity, the culture and the freedom of the Netherlands.”
Following is a transcript of his final remarks:
Mister President, members of the Court,
I am here because of what I have said. I am here for having spoken. I have spoken, I speak and I shall continue to speak. Many have kept silent, but not Pim Fortuyn, not Theo Van Gogh, and not I.
I am obliged to speak. For the Netherlands is under threat of Islam. As I have argued many times, Islam is chiefly an ideology. An ideology of hatred, of destruction, of conquest. It is my strong conviction that Islam is a threat to Western values, to freedom of speech, to the equality of men and women, of heterosexuals and homosexuals, of believers and unbelievers.
All over the world we can see how freedom is fleeing from Islam. Day by day we see our freedoms dwindle.
Islam is opposed to freedom. Renowned scholars of Islam from all parts of the world agree on this. My witness experts subscribe to my view. There are more Islam scholars whom the court did not allow me to call upon to testify. All agree with my statements, they show that I speak the truth. That truth is on trial today.
We must live in the truth, said the dissidents under Communist rule, because the truth will set us free. Truth and freedom are inextricably connected. We must speak the truth because otherwise we shall lose our freedom.
That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.
The statements for which I am being tried are statements which I made in my function as a politician participating in the public debate in our society. My statements were not aimed at individuals, but at Islam and the process of islamization. That is why the Public Prosecutor has concluded that I should be acquitted.
Mister President, members of the Court,
I am acting within a long tradition which I wish to honour. I am risking my life in defence of freedom in the Netherlands. Of all our achievements freedom is the most precious and the most vulnerable. Many have given their lives for freedom. We have been reminded of that in the commemorations of the month of May. But the struggle for freedom is much older.
Every day the armoured cars drive me past the statue of Johan de Witt at the Hofvijver in The Hague. De Witt wrote the “Manifesto of True Freedom” and he paid for freedom with his life. Every day I go to my office through the Binnenhof where Johan van Oldenbarneveldt was beheaded after a political trial. Leaning on his stick the elderly Oldenbarneveldt addressed his last words to his people. He said: “I have acted honourably and piously as a good patriot.” Those words are also mine.
I do not wish to betray the trust of the 1.5 million voters of my party. I do not wish to betray my country. Inspired by Johan van Oldenbarneveldt and Johan de Witt I wish to be a politician who serves the truth end hence defends the freedom of the Dutch provinces and of the Dutch people. I wish to be honest, I wish to act with honesty and that is why I wish to protect my native land against Islam. Silence is treason.
That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.
Freedom and truth. I pay the price every day. Day and night I have to be protected against people who want to kill me. I am not complaining about it; it has been my own decision to speak. However, those who threaten me and other critics of Islam are not being tried here today. I am being tried. And about that I do complain.
I consider this trial to be a political trial. The values of D66 [a Dutch leftist liberal party] and NRC Handelsblad [a Dutch leftist liberal party] will never be brought before a judge in this country. One of the complainants clearly indicated that his intentions are political. Even questions I have asked in parliament and cooperation with the SGP are being brought as allegations against me by Mr Rabbae of GroenLinks [the leftist Dutch Green Party]. Those on the Left like to tamper with the separation of powers. When they cannot win politically because the Dutch people have discerned their sinister agenda, they try to win through the courts.
Whatever your verdict may be, that is the bitter conclusion of this trial.
This trial is also surrealistic. I am being compared with the Hutu murderers in Rwanda and with Mladic. Only a few minutes ago some here have doubted my mental health. I have been called a new Hitler. I wonder whether those who call me such names will also be sued, and if not, whether the Court will also order prosecution. Probably not. And that is just as well. Because freedom of speech applies also to my opponents.
My right to a fair trial has been violated. The order of the Amsterdam Court to prosecute me was not just a decision but a condemning verdict by judges who condemned me even before the actual trial had begun.
Mister President, members of the Court, you must now decide whether freedom still has a home in the Netherlands
Franz Kafka said: “one sees the sun slowly set, yet one is surprised when it suddenly becomes dark.”
Mister President, members of the Court, do not let the lights go out in the Netherlands.
Acquit me: Put an end to this Kafkaesque situation.
Acquit me. Political freedom requires that citizens and their elected representatives are allowed to voice opinions that are held in society.
Acquit me, for if I am convicted, you convict the freedom of opinion and expression of millions of Dutchmen.
Acquit me. I do not incite to hatred. I do not incite to discrimination. But I defend the character, the identity, the culture and the freedom of the Netherlands. That is the truth. That is why I am here. That is why I speak. That is why, like Luther before the Imperial Diet at Worms, I say: “Here I stand, I can do no other.”
That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.
Mister President, members of the Court, though I stand here alone, my voice is the voice of many. This trial is not about me. It is about something much greater. Freedom of expression is the life source of our Western civilisation.
Do not let that source go dry just to cosy up to a totalitarian regime. “Freedom,” said the American President Dwight Eisenhower, “has its life in the hearts, the actions, the spirit of men and so it must be daily earned and refreshed – else like a flower cut from its life-giving roots, it will wither and die.”
Mister President, members of the Court, you have a great responsibility. Do not cut freedom in the Netherlands from its roots, our freedom of expression. Acquit me. Choose freedom.
I have spoken, I speak, and it is my duty – I cannot do otherwise – to continue to speak.
Thank you.
National Post
Wilders insisted he was “defending freedom” despite advocating a ban on the Koran [a book which calls for attacks on those who don't believe in it ~ that incites violence and everlasting bigotry] and other symbols of Islamic expression [The Swiss did the same and so have the French and Belgium ~ and the Netherlands will follow also ~ the tide has turned.]. He went on trial last October for criticising Islam and likening the Koran to Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” [Does this buch call for more livingroom ~ for the spread of a supremacist ideology!].
Muslims across Europe don't want to integrate ~ because they reject ~ the very idea of freedom. Their ideas on freedom are limited to the practise of Islam and the forcible or otherwise ~ effort to get others to respect the same.
Other than this it is just a game.
What do we have to gain from being more like the Islamic world? Imagine that too can be ours!! And if it is so great why are Muslims fleeing to Europe ~ and any part of the free world they can get to?
The Islamic world ~ in all its disastrous state is their work. They reject religious freedoms they reject basic rights ~ and they puzzle over why they live in a dictatorship? But these Islamic ideas laced with fear and dread of what might happen if they are abandoned ~ die hard. And everywhere they go becomes another outpost to set up another Islamic state ~ just like the one they left ~ they only hope that in this one there will be more money and for many state subsidies ~ paid by the non-Muslim peoples.
We can say no!
“I do not encourage hatred, I do not encourage discrimination,” Wilders, 47, insisted. “I defend the character, the identity, the culture and the freedom of the Netherlands.”
Following is a transcript of his final remarks:
Mister President, members of the Court,
I am here because of what I have said. I am here for having spoken. I have spoken, I speak and I shall continue to speak. Many have kept silent, but not Pim Fortuyn, not Theo Van Gogh, and not I.
I am obliged to speak. For the Netherlands is under threat of Islam. As I have argued many times, Islam is chiefly an ideology. An ideology of hatred, of destruction, of conquest. It is my strong conviction that Islam is a threat to Western values, to freedom of speech, to the equality of men and women, of heterosexuals and homosexuals, of believers and unbelievers.
All over the world we can see how freedom is fleeing from Islam. Day by day we see our freedoms dwindle.
Islam is opposed to freedom. Renowned scholars of Islam from all parts of the world agree on this. My witness experts subscribe to my view. There are more Islam scholars whom the court did not allow me to call upon to testify. All agree with my statements, they show that I speak the truth. That truth is on trial today.
We must live in the truth, said the dissidents under Communist rule, because the truth will set us free. Truth and freedom are inextricably connected. We must speak the truth because otherwise we shall lose our freedom.
That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.
The statements for which I am being tried are statements which I made in my function as a politician participating in the public debate in our society. My statements were not aimed at individuals, but at Islam and the process of islamization. That is why the Public Prosecutor has concluded that I should be acquitted.
Mister President, members of the Court,
I am acting within a long tradition which I wish to honour. I am risking my life in defence of freedom in the Netherlands. Of all our achievements freedom is the most precious and the most vulnerable. Many have given their lives for freedom. We have been reminded of that in the commemorations of the month of May. But the struggle for freedom is much older.
Every day the armoured cars drive me past the statue of Johan de Witt at the Hofvijver in The Hague. De Witt wrote the “Manifesto of True Freedom” and he paid for freedom with his life. Every day I go to my office through the Binnenhof where Johan van Oldenbarneveldt was beheaded after a political trial. Leaning on his stick the elderly Oldenbarneveldt addressed his last words to his people. He said: “I have acted honourably and piously as a good patriot.” Those words are also mine.
I do not wish to betray the trust of the 1.5 million voters of my party. I do not wish to betray my country. Inspired by Johan van Oldenbarneveldt and Johan de Witt I wish to be a politician who serves the truth end hence defends the freedom of the Dutch provinces and of the Dutch people. I wish to be honest, I wish to act with honesty and that is why I wish to protect my native land against Islam. Silence is treason.
That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.
Freedom and truth. I pay the price every day. Day and night I have to be protected against people who want to kill me. I am not complaining about it; it has been my own decision to speak. However, those who threaten me and other critics of Islam are not being tried here today. I am being tried. And about that I do complain.
I consider this trial to be a political trial. The values of D66 [a Dutch leftist liberal party] and NRC Handelsblad [a Dutch leftist liberal party] will never be brought before a judge in this country. One of the complainants clearly indicated that his intentions are political. Even questions I have asked in parliament and cooperation with the SGP are being brought as allegations against me by Mr Rabbae of GroenLinks [the leftist Dutch Green Party]. Those on the Left like to tamper with the separation of powers. When they cannot win politically because the Dutch people have discerned their sinister agenda, they try to win through the courts.
Whatever your verdict may be, that is the bitter conclusion of this trial.
This trial is also surrealistic. I am being compared with the Hutu murderers in Rwanda and with Mladic. Only a few minutes ago some here have doubted my mental health. I have been called a new Hitler. I wonder whether those who call me such names will also be sued, and if not, whether the Court will also order prosecution. Probably not. And that is just as well. Because freedom of speech applies also to my opponents.
My right to a fair trial has been violated. The order of the Amsterdam Court to prosecute me was not just a decision but a condemning verdict by judges who condemned me even before the actual trial had begun.
Mister President, members of the Court, you must now decide whether freedom still has a home in the Netherlands
Franz Kafka said: “one sees the sun slowly set, yet one is surprised when it suddenly becomes dark.”
Mister President, members of the Court, do not let the lights go out in the Netherlands.
Acquit me: Put an end to this Kafkaesque situation.
Acquit me. Political freedom requires that citizens and their elected representatives are allowed to voice opinions that are held in society.
Acquit me, for if I am convicted, you convict the freedom of opinion and expression of millions of Dutchmen.
Acquit me. I do not incite to hatred. I do not incite to discrimination. But I defend the character, the identity, the culture and the freedom of the Netherlands. That is the truth. That is why I am here. That is why I speak. That is why, like Luther before the Imperial Diet at Worms, I say: “Here I stand, I can do no other.”
That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.
Mister President, members of the Court, though I stand here alone, my voice is the voice of many. This trial is not about me. It is about something much greater. Freedom of expression is the life source of our Western civilisation.
Do not let that source go dry just to cosy up to a totalitarian regime. “Freedom,” said the American President Dwight Eisenhower, “has its life in the hearts, the actions, the spirit of men and so it must be daily earned and refreshed – else like a flower cut from its life-giving roots, it will wither and die.”
Mister President, members of the Court, you have a great responsibility. Do not cut freedom in the Netherlands from its roots, our freedom of expression. Acquit me. Choose freedom.
I have spoken, I speak, and it is my duty – I cannot do otherwise – to continue to speak.
Thank you.
National Post
Wednesday, June 1, 2011
Wilders defends anti-Islam rhetoric on final day of court hearings - Will Dutch legal system become portal for Islamic blasphemy laws ~ Perhaps they might follow up with a complimentary beheading!!
Geert Wilders Final Remarks at The Amsterdam Trial - English Subtitles
We know free speech will win out ~ because whatever Islam wants ~ if indeed it can want anything at all ~ can't happen here.
The dhimmification of the non-Muslim ~ the subjugation of women ~ the denial of basic rights ~ of freedom of conscience, of freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Can't win here ~ no matter who is offended!!
When freedom offends ~ we need to take a better look at why that is.
You can almost feel Arab states ~ and others like Jordan [are they Arab now too!!] ~ lining up their lawyers ~ nevermind that our people need to eat ~ they've been hungry ~ we need to go after those who offend Islam ~ as the Prophet laid down [with his sword] ~ the Dutch court's hair-brain scheme could become a way for the most radical [sorry, fundamentalist] unfree ~ Islamic nations to reach into Europe and attack freedoms. A conviction for Wilders would not be the end ~ it would only be the beginning.
The idea of the perfect multicultural society works when you have tolerance at both ends ~ not excusing intolerances ~ because it might offend. Religious freedom offends ~ lets get rid of that ~ let's tone it down a bit. We need to make accommodation ~ this social utopia.
What is not being mentioned is that at least one Dutch politician was openly talking about Islamic law in Holland as being okay ~ some Dutch political meetings of the former leaders of the coalition government [now voted out] held meetings where men and women were segregated. And of course if you object to these and other tinkerings ~ you are a "racist".
Look at North Africa ~ Muslims want to import that same system of law to Europe. And everyone who speaks out against this is hateful. Its integration on the cheap ~ get rid of a few rights and freedoms Muslims feel uncomfortable with and they will feel more at home ~ is delusionary ~ because home for many Muslims is the Caliphate. And the only thing many of those who refuse to integrate ~ or adapt to western/European culture ~ will be satisfied with ~ is the restoration of the violent brutal and now thankfully, past Caliphate.
Appeasement is not going to work. They will just ask for more. Until we end up like Egypt, Syria Jordan all these places that used to be Christian ~ and Muslims still aren't satisfied with even that. Their ideas are failed. And they must respect that here in Europe Islam is not the order.[Koran 9:29]
Amsterdam - Dutch politician Geert Wilders on Wednesday defended his anti-Islamic rhetoric during the final day of hearings in his trial for inciting hatred and discrimination, Dutch media reported.
'The Netherlands is threatened by Islam. Islam is an ideology of hate and destruction. Islam threatens Western values and norms,' Wilders told the judges, the daily 'De Volkskrant' reported.
The case against the leader of the anti-Islam PVV (Freedom Party) began last October, but collapsed following claims that the judges were not impartial. A retrial began earlier this year.
Wilders, 47, faces five counts of causing offence to Muslims and of inciting hatred against Muslims and people of non-Western immigrant background, in numerous public statements since October 2006.
The public prosecution has called for Wilders to be found not guilty. A verdict is expected in late June.
M&C
We know free speech will win out ~ because whatever Islam wants ~ if indeed it can want anything at all ~ can't happen here.
The dhimmification of the non-Muslim ~ the subjugation of women ~ the denial of basic rights ~ of freedom of conscience, of freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Can't win here ~ no matter who is offended!!
When freedom offends ~ we need to take a better look at why that is.
You can almost feel Arab states ~ and others like Jordan [are they Arab now too!!] ~ lining up their lawyers ~ nevermind that our people need to eat ~ they've been hungry ~ we need to go after those who offend Islam ~ as the Prophet laid down [with his sword] ~ the Dutch court's hair-brain scheme could become a way for the most radical [sorry, fundamentalist] unfree ~ Islamic nations to reach into Europe and attack freedoms. A conviction for Wilders would not be the end ~ it would only be the beginning.
The idea of the perfect multicultural society works when you have tolerance at both ends ~ not excusing intolerances ~ because it might offend. Religious freedom offends ~ lets get rid of that ~ let's tone it down a bit. We need to make accommodation ~ this social utopia.
What is not being mentioned is that at least one Dutch politician was openly talking about Islamic law in Holland as being okay ~ some Dutch political meetings of the former leaders of the coalition government [now voted out] held meetings where men and women were segregated. And of course if you object to these and other tinkerings ~ you are a "racist".
Look at North Africa ~ Muslims want to import that same system of law to Europe. And everyone who speaks out against this is hateful. Its integration on the cheap ~ get rid of a few rights and freedoms Muslims feel uncomfortable with and they will feel more at home ~ is delusionary ~ because home for many Muslims is the Caliphate. And the only thing many of those who refuse to integrate ~ or adapt to western/European culture ~ will be satisfied with ~ is the restoration of the violent brutal and now thankfully, past Caliphate.
Appeasement is not going to work. They will just ask for more. Until we end up like Egypt, Syria Jordan all these places that used to be Christian ~ and Muslims still aren't satisfied with even that. Their ideas are failed. And they must respect that here in Europe Islam is not the order.
Amsterdam - Dutch politician Geert Wilders on Wednesday defended his anti-Islamic rhetoric during the final day of hearings in his trial for inciting hatred and discrimination, Dutch media reported.
'The Netherlands is threatened by Islam. Islam is an ideology of hate and destruction. Islam threatens Western values and norms,' Wilders told the judges, the daily 'De Volkskrant' reported.
The case against the leader of the anti-Islam PVV (Freedom Party) began last October, but collapsed following claims that the judges were not impartial. A retrial began earlier this year.
Wilders, 47, faces five counts of causing offence to Muslims and of inciting hatred against Muslims and people of non-Western immigrant background, in numerous public statements since October 2006.
The public prosecution has called for Wilders to be found not guilty. A verdict is expected in late June.
M&C
Tuesday, May 31, 2011
Egypt cleric Al-Huwayni says Muslim money problems can be solved via jihad ~ raid and plunder of infidels and their wealth - Video
Tell it like it is ~ preach it!!
This was what the Islamic world was built on!! Muslims want it back. We only assumed that it would be without the taking of slaves, mass killings and out right plunder of everything, from gold to knowledge.
Everything they had was gained via conquest. The world became like the passing caravan back in Muhammad's day.
Muslims today almost appear like a broken robot ~ because they keep trying to go back to those glorious olden days ~ but the story has been cleansed ~ not included was how they acquired those things ~ it has become in the realm of myth and legend. Oh no ~ not us ~ we didn't kill 200-300 million people [1/5 - 1/3 to every Muslim today] ~ and enslave countless millions!! The worst being India/Afghan region ~ the region was named after their slaughter ~ Hindu Kush or Hindu blood. Though Muslims enjoy pointing out everyone else's faults and past misdeeds ~ could never look at their own!!
Also it must be said that ~ it was the prospect of losing the wealth or spoils ~ that allowed for these mass atrocities. Just as with Muhammad [al-Qrophet] when he went out on one of his so-called battles [read marauding] he was upset by the fact that some of his men ~ did not rape [hadith: 'have intercourse with'] the 'captive' women in front of their husbands ~ he conjured Koran 4:24 as a way to order them to do it. Likewise in India in particular ~ the Muhammad followers or jihadists of the day ~ were required to slaughter 100,000 people in a single day ~ some of these guys are like Muhammad ~ have that ruthless streak ~ while others are going to say ~ well we captured them ~ and they are right over here ~ but when the leader saw this ~ he said whoever doesn't kill their captives, will lose all their property and booty gained from the raid ~ and more all of it will be given to the one who told on them.
It ain't the good news!!
At least he is being honest ~ that's a start.
Muslim beauty contestant, 19, 'stoned to death ~ for violating Islamic laws
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| Katya Koren was attacked after taking part in a beauty contest which her friends said angered hardline Muslims |
Update ~ it did seem a little out of place ~ Ukraine ~ Islam ~ the girl according to official reports was not a Muslim and had Christian Russian roots ~ believe her death had nothing to do with Islam ~ and was possibly carried out be a deranged classmate. [+]
Just waiting for the apologists to say ~ oh no stoning have nothing to do with Islam!!
A waste of life.
A teenage Muslim girl was stoned to death under 'Sharia law' after taking part in a beauty contest in Ukraine.
Katya Koren, 19, was found dead in a village in the Crimea region near her home.
Friends said she liked wearing fashionable clothes and had come seventh in a beauty contest.
Murdered: Katya Koren was attacked after taking part in a beauty contest which her friends said angered hardline Muslims
Her battered body was buried in a forest and was found a week after she disappeared.
Police have opened a murder investigation and are looking into claims that three Muslim youths killed her, claiming her death was justified under Islam.
One of the three - named as 16-year-old Bihal Gaziev - is under arrest and told police that Katya had 'violated the laws of Sharia'. Gaziev has said he has no regrets about her death.
Stoning is a divisive subject among Muslims, with some groups interpreting it as Islamic law and others disagreeing.
According to Amnesty International's annual report on death sentences worldwide, issued in April, there were no reports of judicial executions carried out by stoning in 2010.
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| Rural: Katya Koren lived in the Crimea region of the Ukraine where her body was found buried in woodland |
However, new death sentences by stoning were reportedly imposed in Iran, the Bauchi state of Nigeria and Pakistan.
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